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Pascal A.
Identifiant : Pascal_a

Inscrit: 11-2004
Envoyé mercredi 13 avril 2005 - 22h47:   

Voici ces réponses :

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Pascal - In my opinion, both series of photos represent Scarlet
Tanagers
. The first bird looks far too green for a Summer Tanager, and
the second still seems to fit the charcters of Scarlet better than a
Summer. The strongly notched tail of the first bird is perhaps due to
moult or just holding the feathers folded in an unusual way, but does
not seem particularly strange to me.

Jim M.
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Those are definitely Scarlet Tanagers... The one with brown wings is a female, and can't tell on the other. Nice photos!

Giff B.
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The first one looks like a Scarlet Tanager and the 2nd a Summer Tanager.
The notched tail is just the outline of the individual feathers.

Joseph M.
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These birds appear to be Scarlet Tanagers.

Best,
Chris B.

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Hi,

These birds look very much like female Scarlet Tanagers to me.

Ed K.
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Hi Pascal,

they look like female Summer Tanagers Piranga rubra to
me. The deeply notched tails might be the result of
late-stage prebasic molt; remember, the central
rectrices grow in last, and if they aren't full-length
yet there's a distinct notch at the tailtip.

Cheers,
Pete M.
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These look like Scarlet Tanagers to me. The notched or forked tail
appearance is typical of the species (and the genus). I don't have any
photographs posted that will show this for Scarlet, but you can see it in
the last Western Tanager photo I have at
<http://birds.cornell.edu/crows/westanager.htm>. A quick Google image
search will match up the tails pretty quickly.

Kevin J. M.
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Pascal, the birds look to me like female Summer Tanagers. I don't have a
decent map with me here in my office. Is this one of the Lesser Antillean
islands near Guadeloupe?

Floyd E. H.
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Dear Pascal and Nadine

The first three photographs, the ones taken by Nadine, look to me like
immature or female Summer Tanagers, Piranga rubra, but I am a llittle
concerned about the brightness of the bill color - could this have been
affected by bright sunlight perhaps

Unfortunately I am unable to download the other photgraphs -

Regards
Martyn K.
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Pascal A.
Identifiant : Pascal_a

Inscrit: 11-2004
Envoyé mercredi 13 avril 2005 - 22h33:   

Je place rétrospectivement ici les réponses qui avaient suivi une demande d'identification déposée le 16/10/2003 sur le forum ID-Frontiers et qui concernait des tangaras femelles photographiés à saint-pierre un peu plus tôt. La demande avait été formulée ainsi :

In early October, possibly related to hurricane Juan, St. Pierre et Miquelon experienced an interesting fall-out of birds, including dozens of Red-eyed Vireos, Philadephia Vireos, a few Summer Tanagers, more than ten species of Warblers, among them, several N. Parulas, and Canada Warblers (the latter is a fairly rare bird here). We had several Dickcissels and a lot of Baltimore Orioles as well etc.
Among all these birds were a few Tangara or Tangara-like bird, all yellow, at least two different birds have been photographed and showed an obvious notched tail, several field guides were consulted and none show such a forked tail for the species. Could it be a real unusual species.
Photos at these adress :

A first bird photographed by Nadine Vogenstahl :
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/iles-et-ailes/Quiz/141_4187.jpg
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/iles-et-ailes/Quiz/141_4181.jpg
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/iles-et-ailes/Quiz/141_4184.jpg

An other bird photographed by Pascal Asselin :
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/iles-et-ailes/Quiz/101003PA10030118.JPG
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/iles-et-ailes/Quiz/101003PA10030119.JPG
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/iles-et-ailes/Quiz/101003PA10030124.JPG
In company :
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/iles-et-ailes/Quiz/101003PA10030123.JPG

Thanks
Birders from Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon (where tangaras visiting is uncommon)

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